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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Oct 9, 2006 1:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

Oh yeah! I like first sets too. Sometimes I like them better depending on the show. Not to go off on a tangent but everyone thinks it's only about the 2nd set but come on, how many 2nd sets had the exact same songs in the exact same order?

What immediately comes to mind for me is the Europe 72 tour. The whole band sounded majestic and the piano just makes the sound - shot gun ragtime band indeed. Lots of great Keith work 72-74. 74 even saw him doing a little electronic piano too. Of course he was great up until 77 imo. Also his work with JGB is fine too. How about sitting in Limbo?

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Poster: ganges Date: Oct 9, 2006 1:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

Sitting in limbo, one of my favourite songs of JGB, I don't have many versions, one is on the "Don't let go" CD, I bought that last year in CA, Amoeba in Berkeley, great store. You probably know it.
So I'm going to listen to Europe 72 again, that's where I started seeing them, actually only one other show after that!

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Oct 10, 2006 1:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

ganges: check out JGB in 1975 for Sitting Here In Limbo's with Nicky Hopkins on acoustic piano...priceless! (he played with Jerry from Aug 8 through Dec 31, 1975)

if you don't know already you can D/L the shows here (lossy format);

http://tela.sugarmegs.org/boxofrain/

text files here;

http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/asxcards/

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Poster: ganges Date: Oct 10, 2006 8:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

thanks a lot, I looked at sugarmegs, but could only find one show from that time, when Nicky H. played, the other are Garcia/Kahn in those months on sugarmegs, and the only one on GDLive is in the mp3 section, but no Limbo, so if you have anything in mind? Otherwise thank you anyway, I'll keep on looking now for that time period.

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Poster: high flow Date: Oct 10, 2006 10:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

The Grisman/Garcia compilation on GDlive has a nice Sitting in Limbo. Do you have/want that one?

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Poster: ganges Date: Oct 10, 2006 12:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

Which one is the compilation at GDlive?
I have one Limbo Garcia/Grisman on the official "Been all around this world", the JGB one on "Don't let go" and some DLs. Thanks

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Poster: high flow Date: Oct 10, 2006 4:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

Hi Ganges - The copy I have is this one. Click the link then open the .txt file for details...

[outdated gdlive]

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2006-10-10 23:37:34

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Poster: ganges Date: Oct 11, 2006 12:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

thank you, really, such a great Limbo, and such a great sound, really special!

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 10, 2006 4:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

Wow! Just downed a copy of the Sitting in Limbo & yer right, excellent sound and great Jer vocals. Makes me guilty to think when i see a show, whether Dead or Jer side project, i automatically avoid most things post '88 thereabouts. Listening to this sweet song just proved the flaws in that approach. Or did Jerry maybe perhaps, for whatever reason, have greater vocal success with JGB, Grisman, Kahn, etc.?

[ ... now for a sweet Russian Lullaby from same period, hmmm?]

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Poster: high flow Date: Oct 11, 2006 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

Ganges & Arbuthnot - I assume you mean the '92 version? Did you read the notes? The song-mix was done by Grisman for Gans' GD Hour. The CD(they say tape, my guess it's always been on CD, never tape)was stolen and circulated.

Anyhoo, it's one of the best acoustic records I've heard. Period. Check out 16X16, it's pure Gypsy Gold...

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Poster: ganges Date: Oct 11, 2006 11:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

thanks high flow for that link, just listening to She Belongs To Me, what a sweet version, and 16x16 IS amazing!

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Poster: ganges Date: Oct 10, 2006 12:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

Great, thanks a lot, will get it tomorrow, it's late here by now.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Oct 10, 2006 3:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

good morning ganges:

Limbo was performed only 10 times with Nicky Hopkins, 3 of these at sugarmegs, 10/23, 11/08 and 12/19/75, but of little performance value worth mentioning

unless the cassette i have is mis-labeled (?) the one i had in mind is 10/31/75 early show Tower Theatre Upper Darby PA...Nicky tickles the ivories on this Limbo like none other...anyone seen this show on the web anywhere?

what a shame that Nicky's compromised health prevented him from touring on a regular basis...imo Jer's best pianist

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Poster: ganges Date: Oct 11, 2006 12:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

Thank you Midnight Sun, I found the shows now in the text files, I don't know why I didn't see them yesterday. I didn't figure out what is happening with the DLing at Sugarmegs, it's 9a.m. here, that would make 3a.m. NYC time, but it says DL prohibited, any idea? I'll keep on looking, thanks for the help

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 10, 2006 11:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

those garcia/grisman shows have awesome sound. well worth the download as you know.

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Poster: lostmoon Date: Oct 10, 2006 2:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

most shows look like wma's. where are the lossy files? - or can the wma's be converted?

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Oct 10, 2006 5:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

they are WMA at 40 kbps

lossy when compared to 1411 kbps WAV, but a lot better than 16 kbps MP3 ;)

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Poster: lostmoon Date: Oct 10, 2006 5:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

so there is no way to convert to wav?

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Oct 10, 2006 5:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

as far as i know there is no way to restore them back to the lossless SHN files they once were...also, since the D/L's contain whole shows too long to be burnt to discs, they have to be divided up with a software program (typically 1 track per song)...others might be able to direct in this matter...from what i hear, it is very time consuming...i suspect the hundreds of shows i have D/L from this site will mostly stay on my hard drive until i find better sources

but you gotta like the vast selection a sugarmegs, GD, JGB and otherwise!

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Poster: lostmoon Date: Oct 10, 2006 10:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

no question about the vast selection. it is impressive. it would be great if you (or others) had your favs I could zero in on. Nero wav editor is one way to split up whole shows to tracks, but is time consuming, but in some instances, worth it.

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Poster: Bugz Date: Oct 9, 2006 1:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

My first GD live experiences were in the summer of 1973 - 6/9 and 6/10 RFK; Watkins Glen; Roosevelt 7/31 and 8/1; Nassau 9/7 and 9/8;

Keith was amazing, as were the rest of the "team";

All the differen "pianner" players brought there own best most nights; Keith was so good so fast, sadly the demons caught up to him and he "only" had five great years with the GD (including the retirement) but wow1

Brent had a command of the B-3 organ, and a voice to go with it; Keith sang essentially only "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away" (I was at the first performance of that tune) and was not quite a "singer" during his GD days.

Bruce is Bruce.

Vince arrived during the band's sunset, and had his share of supporters and, well, non-supporters. Both parties are correct, but i feel that he shouldered more than his share of the blame for the ultimate degeneration of the music.

Pig and TC - never saw them live, but the recordings speak for themselves.

Quick side opinion - i think that when the band went to the earpiece monitors is when the decay accelerated - '92 was OK to brilliant, but by late '93...

don't misconstrue, there were moments of brilliance up to the bitter end, but the isolation of the ear monitors removed a lot of the intimate interaction that the band could count on.

Just a thought...

Peace now.

Bugz

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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Oct 9, 2006 8:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

I think you bring on a great point about the ear monitor BS. I thought that came on in 94-95 but maybe I'm wrong? I think the same about the teleprompter crap.Regardless I have a copy of that 4-1-95 that some people think is so great but to me it sucks. Not only musically but having Phil tell everyone the changes while they're playing? No thanks.

I guess I'm thankful I saw them when I did.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 9, 2006 3:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

"Sitting in Limbo"

Don't know that one ... can you point me to a show with a good version?

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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Oct 9, 2006 8:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: keith

Jimmy Cliff - Sitting here in Limbo off the Harder they come soundtrack. I'm not a big Reggae fan myself but I love Jimmy Cliff and Marley.